The product was a gentler and more aromatic smoke when it landed in Europe than when it left the "New World". Have fun, good luck, and thanks for dropping in. Drying or "curing" home-grown tobacco leaves. Is there a trick to keeping tobacco alight? If it's too rainy or it gets too much water, the tobacco gets weak and thin. It must work, his mates think the stuffs great. Live in California. Answer: Curing tobacco is pretty much just letting it dry until it turns goldish. I spent many years at sea in the MN, as Captain since 1975, so cost wasn't an issue then. Answer: Yes, but as it has a root ball the size of a football, you'll need a large tub. On the tobacco front. Great read. After that I shredded them. Thank you for posting this. % of people told us that this article helped them. Misting it with Vodka or Rum (or some other alcohol including Port) and letting it dry may help, as well as imparting a nice flavor. Cigar tobacco producers ferment tobacco naturally by creating huge piles of air cured leaves. I started about 400 tobacco seeds, about 85% germination rate. You are using an out of date browser. Question [1] 2 Pick leaves that are a pale-yellow for drying. Thanks. I have dried and cut one leaf for a try. Once the tobacco is dry to my liking or touch. Don't pick the whole plant at once, since they will become ready over a period of weeks. Do you think theyll go ok in there until after the last frost of winter? Oh yeah, adding flavor.any ideas on flavoring the bacco? Got the seeds in the germinator today , wanting an early jump on the season , great weather this last week and hoping for no frosts.. Once this is done I remove it from its leaf stems. You'll know they're ready for use when theyve turned dark brown and the edges of each leaf are curled. It should take about 4-8 weeks for the leaves to dry out entirely, but it may take longer depending on the variety of tobacco and your climate. A good recommended fill blend for a home grown cigar is 30% Havana leaf and 70% Virginia leaf with a Havana wrapper. Answer: Let them become almost dry but not brittle, take out the middle rib and any others that are large (who wants to smoke ribs?) Also worked very well last year on fully dried tobacco. And the other thing is that I 'm in Canada. -Week 3 smells very strongly like raisins. Although I may not be identifying the ammonia as released from tobacco leaves correctly. But really, there are no unpleasant smells to be vented. If your bud is over dried, adding moisture isn't going to help the cure. Anyine got pointers on aging? Answer: It should be okay in a large bucket. Tobacco plants nearing maturity. i plant them in the ground so i achieve maximum height. Wash off any dirt, though. 11 years ago He constantly kept preaching about this. This article could not be written any better! I did see a fermenter made of ply-wood, and i can tell ya, that one would most definitely off gas formaldehyde and other such chemicals found in the adhesives.Q: So you haven't noticed any sort of ammonia smell coming from the tobacco?A: I really haven't! on Step 6, Do you ferment all leaves that you want to use as in the cigar or just the outer leaf of the cigar. Answer: Most of my friends who grow tobacco just dry it before smoking it, so no, don't bother. Our politicians will waste tens of millions on a futile flag referendum (and then probably twist the results - the head of the CIA visited last week) then they tax the Hell out of smokers - over 90% of the retail cost of tobacco returns to the government in some form of taxation (a conservative estimation) but smokers are denied the medical treatment of others as they "caused their own problems". A lot of tobaccos's taste sweetens with salt - folks will mix maybe a 1/4 teaspon of salt in 8-10 ounces of distilled water, lay the tobacco out on a tray, mist it with the salty solution, allow to dry and then put it in the curing jars. A good recommended fill blend for a home grown cigar is 30% Havana leaf and 70% Virginia leaf with a Havana wrapper.-Cheap, light weight foam cooler: if you ever wondered what to do with that leaky foam coolerhere it is!-Corded clamp light reflector light fixture, (avail. This article is accurate and true to the best of the authors knowledge. Buuut, it is still good to note the same surgeon general warning that "smoking is bad for your health", etc. Let . The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on July 17, 2018: Try misting the dried leaves with a mixture of oil of cloves (from the chemist) and water. If I do this will it ruin the final curing process? Cold and frost will affect your crop yield. When the leaves are in the Eski fermenting do you turn them or move them around. It improves with age so long as it does not dry out. Did you dry indoors? I smoke about 50grm/week -say 1 3/4 oz/week. I have the space/patience/whole leaf to be able to grow enough each season for a couple of years, and am happy to just store it away for a few years before reaching for it. Find a shelter where youll have some control over the humidity by opening or closing doors, windows, or vents. Wonderful hub. Stack leaves (10-20+) and sweat in sun or oven in winter. keep swapping around until all golden brown (they will be damp but silky). Notice the orange ring in the image below. Answer: You can make alcohol from any vegetable matter. Hanging Tobacco Leaves for Drying 1 Dry tobacco in the fall for the best results. Have you ever tried soaking leaves to flavour them? I used the barest pinch of seeds sprinkled into a six-pot seed tray and got over 100 plants! Answer: I'm sorry but I can't really help you as there are too many unknowns. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Happy from Toronto, Canada on July 16, 2014: Great hub. It's a bit late now to plant outdoors, but you can probably start your seedlings in the hothouse, or better still in little pots on a warm windowsill (Like in the kitchen) . As you know i don't smoke anymore, but gotta thank John Keye for the taxes, and the opportunity for extra income ( wink wink ), just follow the advice given here Jen, you cant go wrong, I gathered some seeds from a garden not knowing it was tobacco.They have grown amazingly.Thanks to your practical info I'm setting about drying the leaves .Might find a use for my grandads pipes in a rack yet .Thanks. This is typically the culprit. The primary tobacco curing methods consist of air curing, sun curing, fire curing, and flue curing. I'm not a smoker any more since the heart problems but i do love the feeling of putting one over the Gvt. I do not recommend that anyone follow this procedure, please use discretion with the project. And how long will this last in this storage method? Store the seeds safely. HubPages is a registered trademark of The Arena Platform, Inc. Other product and company names shown may be trademarks of their respective owners. Essentially creating a compost heap where the internal temperature is carefully monitored along with the humidity levels. Great sense of humour and a very helpfull artical.Thank you. Make sure kiln has good air circulation and that jars aren't touching walls to prevent condensation in jars. From a broader perspective, there are a few variables that influence how tobacco ages. It was a good shot at it though! The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on April 04, 2014: Thanks for your comments, I use HubPages, as per heading; free to use, just join up. Question WISH ME LUCK FOLKS THE GOVT DAMN SURE DOESN'T ASTHEY WATCH THERE TAX DOLLARS EVAPORATE. The site loading pace is amazing. Question: What strain of tobacco do you grow? The Arena Media Brands, LLC and respective content providers to this website may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website. grown though through thirty years did need a lot more aging then actual curing.But I don't consider anything dead in a jar to be curing, this is aging in my book and curing takes place during the death of the living cells . Perhaps it is a distraction from daily stresses and allows an escape to simpler times. It realy increase my knowledge about the topic. Answer: The leaves normally dry from the bottom of the plant up. the pic was just of some plants that had mold growth on them. (I've been away playing Cap'n Ahabs with an old boat in New Plymouth harbour). Drying tobacco is a kind of curing process that takes between 3 and 8 weeks to properly prepare the tobacco for use. when curing don't burp the jars that will stop the curing process, you will add new oxygen and revert the anaerobic bacteria that was curing to aerobic and thats starts to feed on chlorophyl . The dried leaves will be slightly sticky, and theyll have the feeling of very thin leather. Temps above 122F (50C) inhibit the vegetative growth of mold. Once sealed, age for about two months at room temperature or slightly above. and all so i listened to my mums idea of putting it between news paper which was silly thing to do, it stuck to the sheets of paper and when mouldy! After drying the leaves then adding flavour such as vodka and then slicing/cutting would I store the tobacco in a air tight container? 12.5% cure for between 3 weeks and 11 weeks. I fugured: "since im griwing broccoli and carrots I might as well griw sone 'backy too!" Tho it is now. When the plant is mature, harvest the leaves as normal and check google on making cigars, - I haven't made them but I know that there are some good sites with common sense instructions around. I suppose most guys go 1 to 2 months, but my philosophy is, if it's not on fire in my pipe, why bother taking it out of the kiln. From new and estate tobacco pipes to tin pipe tobacco and bulk pipe tobacco, we have everything you need. I have been advised that I must ferment to improve the flavour, but more importantly to remove the ammonia which is pretty bad for you. Just wanted to see how it's done. Tobacco does grow like crazy once it gets going, about 3 months from seedling to 7 ft plant even in my temperate climate in Summer. Some leaves are 500-600mm in length and still rather green. Answer: That's a question that I haven't had before! I got 6 x 1 oz jars sealed up yesterday. at home depot, clamp assembly is not needed)-30W light bulb (heat source)-Aluminum foil-Clean paper towels-Plastic bag-Sterilized spray bottle (use bleach solution to clean, rinse and dry thoroughly)-Distilled water. Fairly certain he's going to have a good read. Question: Is it worth continuing to harvest the leaves after the tobacco plant has flowered? Question: When growing and curing tobacco at home, do we do a fermentation/sweating process after drying? Subtract the one-time cost of the seed ($2.50 buys about 1,000 seeds at the shop down the road from me) and the price of the couple of cups of seed-raising mix and fertiliser you may have purchased. Im growing in ohio, where the difference betwixt winter and summer is almost nonexistent. After drying my iwn tobacco I put a little bourbon on it in a deep pot and roasted in oven at 50 degrees with a lid on. And it sounds like you will be able to modify your system for next year!Just one note! Fire-cured tobacco is hung in large barns where fires of hardwoods are kept on continuous or intermittent low smoulder and takes between three days and ten weeks, depending on the process and the tobacco. If it looks a bit damp or won't light he sticks it in the warming tray of his oven for a while. I retired about 19 years ago and in 2013 attended a BBQ organised by my wife's Tai Chi Club. I'm curious to uncover out what blog system youre employing? Now, any ideas on how I could take this to the next level & make it into clove cigarettes? The same number (12.5%) cure for between 6 and 8 days. I planted a few seedlings in February one year as an experiment. Your blog by far has the most simplistic and helpful information on growing tobacco. Add the parts, tools needed to create the lids so they're air tight, medical grade silicone lines, manifolds, check valves, RH hygrometer, the grommets alone cost $50 for 10 (with a minimum . Answer: Tobacco doesn't naturally burn well. Break the seedheads into it and rub the central core to get the seeds off. Thanks for sharing! Answer: I know people that have done both, so it's really up to you which is handiest, I don't think that it makes much difference to the end product. Im experiencing some small security troubles with my latest weblog and Id like to locate something more safeguarded. Question: Why do my tobacco leaves never turn yellow and ripen? Is that a constant 50c or would it be averaged over a 3day or so cycle? bumptious bureaucrats and politicians are revolting species, but i believe there's a special spot reserved in hell for those that don white coats and the mantle of 'oficial'. If you feel that yours is too green(and limp) still, try putting some in an oven at a low heat (100c or less) for half an hour or more to dry it to a better colour. This is the kind of info ive been searching for. Generally, what works on tomatoes should work on tobacco. The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on March 06, 2015: I chucked some seeds in the fridge last year; planted them in portable greenhouse in september and have a bumper crop drying in my garage now. Firstly, a warning: smoking can be bad for your health. This would be those with the traditional mason jar design. If this seems a. little tricky here, it is. I'll certainly digg it and individually suggest to my friends. i think il try the box with water in and a towel on top after iv dry the tobacco this year.. only using a heat pad. Question: How do you flavor tobacco with honey and alcohol? A friend hangs his tobacco for about three months, by which time it has both a nice colour and texture. You get the picture. Having got that off my chairy little hest, let's get down to the nitty-gritty. remember you are not growing veges, yellow leaves make a more mellow product. Also, is it possible for the plants to grow too fast? Why am I growing tobacco? How does humidity affect the rate of fermenting? x3' high lined with 1 1/2" styrofoam 3 100w heaters in bottom controlled by cookerstat,fed in moist air from a humidifier.Humidity 80% temp 120/130.Cured leaf for 4 weeks. After fermentation (kilning), tobacco aroma and taste may change significantly over a few days, with noticeable change becoming more subtle after that. The RH Lids have to be cut to exact specs with a Water Jet ($10k) or the hygrometer won't seal properly. I am going to scour around and see if I can find some seeds. 5 Steps to properly drying & curing cannabis Drying Weed (Steps 1-2) Marijuana strain trimming Step 1: Trimming your buds To dry your buds, you first need to trim them. Some are undoubtedly better, but I don't think many would be easier or cheaper than the method I've described, and I know what I've written about works because I've done it. 4 years ago -Week 1-2 smells like wet grass. This is a cheap and accessible possibility to achieve the conditions required for fermentation. Also, in the images above you can see the vent holes I cut in the top and bottom of the coolerI have since plugged them up to hold in the humiditythere was too much ventilation going on. Mary Wickison from USA on March 23, 2014: After years of nagging (I mean politely requesting) my husband to stop, now I find your page. chop up the leaves and smoke 'em. Using a solution of honey or something sweet may help also. The biggest difference is that the plastic box did too good of a job sealing in the moisture, and perhaps there was too much to begin with. Do you ferment leaves for smoking tobacco? The essential pieces for fermentation is 120 degree heat and humidity. I have a bag of locally grown and cured tobacco leaves suitable for smoking in a pipe but would like to make my own tobacco oil for candles and perfume. I don't really monitor the humidity too much, I just give it 15-20 distilled water misting on and between the hands about 2-3 times a day, just to keep the leaves semi-moist. If you need more seed google King Seeds in Katikati, (I've a link in the text). I personally didn't run into any problems, but this set up is risky and definitely not UL rated . Question: How long are you supposed to cure tobacco for? Spray water, port, rum, honey dissolved in any of the aforementioned, or pretty well any consumable liquid. Little green capsules about 1/4 in long will be left behind. It depends on what you want the tobacco for. I have smoked ciggies, small cigars and a pipe since I was about 14. You do need LARGE pots, it grows a huge root ball. So, fermentation, do it if you want to, you may like the flavour better, you may not, I don't think that it matters a damn' for health and safety. Tobacco grows best in places that are dry and warm. Whether its for smoking, for ceremonial use, or for an insect repellent solution, there are many reasons to dry, or air-cure, your own tobacco leaves. i hope this works because all my tobacco is in there.. iv got a brewing heat pad about 30 watts put a storage box on top will 2 lt of water. im in manchester uk.. i have tried drying in about 4 diffrent places now over 2 years .. i dried that lot in the loft so there was temp fluctuation. Or can I plant them right away in areas with a long growing season? Answer: I've never bothered fermenting, and nor have any of my friends. As you said, I leave the "Best/Biggest" plant to flower and take the seeds from it for the next season- tho of course you only need one seed pod to get 1000's of tiny seeds for next year's crop. In fact, each capsule has dozens of seeds, so one picking of ready seed-heads is more than ample unless you have several acres you want to plant out. 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